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May 10, 2012

There’s always a mixture of frustration and glee when mainstream media miss the blindingly obvious, leaving a lowly blogger like me to point it out. Most have focussed on Andy Coulson’s lack of security clearance and BSkyB shares – granted, both important issues. “No killer blow” have declared BBC correspondents, Sky reporters, journalists, politicos and other assorted lotophagi reviewing the Coulson evidence. I beg to differ.

The Prime Minister has been caught, today, lying. On record. Repeatedly.

Cameron was pulled up recently by MP Chris Bryant for meetings with Rupert Murdoch which had not been declared, despite his many statements to the House of Commons that he had published all of them. The reaction from Number 10 was swift, categorical and bullish. Rupert Murdoch’s lawyers rushed to withdraw the list of meetings attached to Rupe’s statement, and re-submitted it with some of the meetings in question omitted and some shown as “possible” or “proposed”. They could not be confirmed.

Cameron’s spokesman made a statement claiming “We are confident that the list we published was correct. Our list is based on our diary records and we believe those diary records are comprehensive.”

Cameron’s full list can be found here. The relevant extract for July is below:

Not included in the above is a party thrown by Mayor Bloomberg in New York in honour of the PM on 21st July 2010. Cameron has an explanation for this apparently. His spokesman explained that the list “would not include every person who the PM exchanged words with at a large event”.

But the New York party, according to Rupert Murdoch’s evidence may have been preceded by a private meeting. Downing Street denies this, since they claim that their list is complete. The Prime Minister denies this, since he has claimed that he has published all of them.

And here is the killer paragraph from Andy Coulson’s witness statement which appears to have evaded everyone:

The second post-election meeting with Rupert Murdoch was in New York on the day Mayor Bloomberg organised a party in honour of the Prime Minister. Before the party Rupert Murdoch met David Cameron for around half an hour. He and I met briefly when he arrived, but I did not sit in on the meeting.

His Director of Communications at the time, a man who seems unable to remember which traffic light colour denotes “stop” and which “go” (it’s red and green respectively, Andy) appears to recall this with crystal clarity. A private meeting. Quite separate from the party. For half an hour. Where is it on your list, number 10?

I have always thought the expression “innocent until proven guilty” a quirk of the English language. Surely it should be “unless proven”… Having observed this Government’s application of that legal principle to Andy Coulson, Liam Fox, Andy Werrity, Chris Huhne, Jeremy Hunt, Peter Cruddas, Rebekah Brooks et al, I am beginning to appreciate the wisdom of “until”.


Please read this important update: Cameron’s Extra Meeting with Murdoch.

49 Comments leave one →
  1. May 10, 2012 7:29 pm

    Brilliant!! Well spotted Alex, Be interesting to see how they will try to wriggle out of this one.

  2. May 10, 2012 7:32 pm

    Reblogged this on DaveD's Blog.

  3. Anonymous permalink
    May 10, 2012 7:48 pm

    Adam Werritty, no?

  4. Meg Howarth permalink
    May 10, 2012 7:54 pm

    Brilliant last para! Thank you from all concerned about to unlock democracy in the UK. About to re-tweet.

  5. May 10, 2012 7:55 pm

    I hate to sound like a lawyer but “comprehensive” diary record does not equal “complete” diary record.

    • Mike Bickerton permalink
      May 10, 2012 8:31 pm

      But we are all expected to believe that it really is ‘complete’ until it is necessary to say that in fact it is only ‘comprehansive’, that is when they’ve been caught out, if you know what I mean. Slippery is the word. Great piece as usual, Alex.

  6. Terry Murphy permalink
    May 10, 2012 7:59 pm

    Well done

  7. May 10, 2012 8:01 pm

    Like Werritty/Fox and co, he escapes being seen by civil servants by having his meetings abroad! Maybe it’s in the handbook!

  8. Bob permalink
    May 10, 2012 8:03 pm

    What a cauldron of c***s.

  9. James permalink
    May 10, 2012 8:05 pm

    You sound almost gleeful. “Caught today. Lying on record. Repeatedly.” Why is this important? Tony Blair is the godfather to one of Rupert Murdoch’s kids. Murdoch has been close to British PMs for 40 years. Tell us something we don’t know!

    • Mike Bickerton permalink
      May 10, 2012 8:36 pm

      James, you are seriously missing the point? Cameron has denied all of this ad nauseum and has now been caught out. These days honest Dave is Prime Minister claiming open and honest governement and some people voted for him ‘cos they believed him.

    • May 10, 2012 8:36 pm

      So that is alright then.

      It certainly bothers me how Murdoch trims his sails nicely to the political wind.
      The difference is, that we all knew about those relationships. There was no attempt afaik, to cover up any government involvement with hacking scandals or purchasing yet more British media.

  10. Janette Scharenborg permalink
    May 10, 2012 8:26 pm

    In one word “Brilliant” want to see #cameron get out of this one

  11. Colin Forster permalink
    May 10, 2012 8:50 pm

    What would be Mr Cameron’s motive for lying about this particular meeting, if it happened?

  12. Liberal_Will permalink
    May 10, 2012 8:51 pm

    Cameron in the House of Commons: “Already we have introduced transparency about the meetings we have with the media. Everyone can see which proprietors or editors I meet, whether publicly or privately.”

    Source: – end of paragraph 4. (video at 5mins31)

  13. Keith Hale permalink
    May 10, 2012 9:03 pm

    So what. Politician meets newspaper owner. Big deal. Always have, always will.

    • May 10, 2012 10:38 pm

      and lied about it, repeatedly.
      We don’t usually like our politicians to lie to us!

    • May 10, 2012 11:24 pm

      The point, Keith Hale, is that he lied to parliament, and therefore to us, about it. Prime Ministers, certainly ones that say they champion open and transparent government, aren’t supposed to lie through their teeth.

      I thought these ministers were allowed to see witness statements in advance so that they could invent new lies to cover their old lies… It seems that he was too thick do do that properly.

  14. May 10, 2012 9:22 pm

    And it is much appreciated-thank you!

  15. May 10, 2012 9:25 pm

    Don’t just tweet it, tweet it AT political journalists – Robinson, Bradby, Boulton, and all the media outlets using Twitter

  16. May 10, 2012 9:49 pm

    A touch self-congratulatory in tone, but I strongly approve of your headline.

  17. Steel permalink
    May 10, 2012 9:57 pm

    Sean Hoare dying the week before he blew the whistle on Coulson was bizarre, had he not died they would ALL be heading to jail of that I have no doubt. Was Sean murdered ? I believe so. However, we have yet to scrape the surface. What makes them all lie and stay so silent ? I would imagine fear makes a very good motive. Cameron’s meeting with Aznar reminded me of this…

    Aznar ,after deleting the data rushed straight into the arms of Rupert Murdoch where a job was waiting for him on the board of directors at News Corp !

  18. Steel permalink
    May 10, 2012 10:02 pm

    Video : Sean Hoare ‘There Is Something Rotten At Scotland Yard’…..Sean never had the chance to tell us what (:

  19. May 11, 2012 12:15 am

    Batman? Sherlock? Is that you?

    Maybe you should be appointed free-lance detective.

  20. May 11, 2012 9:04 am

    Just another lie in a brimming cess pit of lies.

    So far the Levenson inquiry is brushing more dirt under the carpet than it’s sweeping up, while our tame MSM is content with scavenging for the least toxic droppings.

    For a broader view giving some perspective on the parameters of this pit I recommend Open Democracy’s – Murdoch and the Big Lie: Anthony Barnett 4 May 2012.

  21. Steel permalink
    May 11, 2012 9:11 am

    Good morning , you may not wish to post this as a comment but in the last week there have been some interesting nuggests surfacing between the McCanns and News International , Brooks in particular.

    You can see here that Kate admits a deal was struck with NI in return for a new spearheading of ‘ the Maddy story’ ….I have enough circumstancial evidence to show the McCanns were hacked and a deal was made between Brooks and the McCanns back in 2007…I also know the topic of the hacking even though the SUN have pulled the page but as luck would have it I have a link through another source.

    If you wish I will leave you the links for you to digest and chew over yourself.

    This would be one hell of a scoop for someone in the media who is brave enough to break the story and what a story there is to tell, the framing of Rober Murat by friends of the McCanns, I have it all if you are interested. The British media I believe are aware of what is going on but too afraid to put their toe in the water.

    if you are interested to follow this up send me a mail.

    Criminal profiler Pat Brown is also working on the McCann case if you care to check her work on her blog. Just need to clear that with you to show I am not a conspiraloon. 🙂 Have a good day.

  22. Steel permalink
    May 11, 2012 9:19 am

    A few more links connecting McCanns to Hackgate.

  23. May 11, 2012 9:22 am

    I couldn’t agree more. I also agree with the comment about tweeting it @ journalists not just tweeting it.

  24. May 11, 2012 9:30 am

    Reblogged this on danoxbury and commented:
    Brilliant find!

  25. May 11, 2012 9:34 am

    Ouch! Nice work, well done.

  26. May 11, 2012 10:28 am

    David Cameron lying is a new concept to me.

    Pasty anyone?

  27. May 11, 2012 10:51 am

    In one word “Brilliant” want to see cameron get out of this one

  28. May 11, 2012 11:31 am

    Reblogged this on theprodigalsonblog.

  29. Richard permalink
    May 11, 2012 11:38 am

    Excellent work guys.

  30. Steel permalink
    May 11, 2012 12:02 pm

    A link to how MURDOCH’S SUN tried to sway public opinion and suspect Robert Murat while friends of the McCanns were framing him for the abduction of Madeleine.

    Link also to Murdoch’s SUN unframing Robert Murat for Jane Tanner.

  31. Steel permalink
    May 11, 2012 1:46 pm

    Did Brooks have anything to do with this bizarre turn of events ?

  32. Steel permalink
    May 11, 2012 3:25 pm

    Alex, this is much more serious and I wonder now if the paedophile allegations in the McCann case were held back under the orders of Brooks and not Leicester police as it would appear Brooks has been running the country !

    A family friend of the McCanns a Dr.Gaspar went to the police with her fears about a member of the group holidaying with the McCanns. The allegations were held back from the Portuguese investigation until the PJ heard rumours of their existance and asked to see them.

    FOI’s, I do have copies , sent to Leicester police on whether or not these allegations were ever investigated go unanswered. If you like, I can post them here.

    This story must come out surely ?

  33. May 12, 2012 5:27 am

    Excellent work indeed! =D

    P.S.: The notion stems from this — the Latin phrase “Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat.” (“Burden of proof rests [with] [he] who says, not [he] who denies.” — i.e. with the claimant, not the defendant), thereby denoting what the English phrase refers to; that a person, even if everybody knows one to be guilty, is treated as innocent until proven guilty, regardless of non-conclusive, non-admissible evidence. One can even allude to their guilt.

    Good on your find, because it points to that sort of thing explicitly. I am not sure what sort of standards British courts have, though, and whether they will admit such evidence. I hope for the best!

  34. ronmoule permalink
    May 12, 2012 8:45 pm

    Excellently expressed: shows the Press ain’t that impressive

  35. Mike Bickerton permalink
    May 13, 2012 8:04 am

    Well, that’s all opened a can of worms!

  36. Law permalink
    May 13, 2012 11:20 pm

    Nice one – well spotted. We should start calling you Sherlock.

  37. Rob McD permalink
    May 14, 2012 4:56 pm

    Probably most people will feel Rupert Murdoch deserves what he gets. Everyone, including politicians from all sides, are lining up and sticking the knife in. But for me, the real corruption comes not from NI, but from Westminster and particularly No.10.

    Murdoch was allowed, by a string of useless or corrupt governments, to buy his way to power and influence. Every Prime Minister since Thatcher appears to have thought it proper and right to abandon their morals and public duty by selling their sole to this tyrant.

    In my mind, in this case particularly, there is clearly a dereliction of duty by Cameron and Co. They have allowed themselves to be unduly influenced (corrupted) by a foreign state (NI) to the determent of his office and this country. Some may rightly call it treasonous.

    I’m not aware that the offense of treason has been appealed.

    Alex, my I suggest you pass this information onto the Police.


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